00:00 You’re listening to the live happier, longer podcast episode 21.
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01:18 Hey Angela. Hey Molly. How’s it going? It’s going well. Excellent. We are here second week of January. Yeah. Ready to get to it. Uh, we are talking this month about different ways of approaching a healthy diet. Yep. I am trying to get back to that. I, I typically don’t, I, I like take the, do the holidays all the way through January seventh because that’s my husband’s birthday. So for me that’s like the, the end. Um, so, so does that mean you’ve still been eating all the cookies? Yeah. So now… I don’t even have that excuse.
01:57 Well, but you’ve been on the British baking. Yeah, we won’t go there, but it’s been a lot and the donuts and it all. Yeah. Yeah. They are really good! So anyway, I have been starting just over the last few days to start getting into a habit that I had before and I really like it as a way of practicing healthy eating and that is intermittent fasting. And we’re going to talk about that a little bit more today with our guest, Deb Guttierez, who is a holistic health coach. Well first of all, she’s, she’s really, she’s stunning, she’s 57, she looks amazing and she just looks healthy and radiant, which I love. And her whole approach is, she says on her website, achievement is not what we crave, fulfillment is where it’s at. So she really does approach this whole lifestyle thing from a holistic approach. But today we wanted to talk with her about her background in fitness and nutrition and specifically we’re going to get into intermittent fasting and bio individuality. Yeah. So let’s go ahead and speak to deb.
03:08 Hey deb. Hi deb.
03:10 Good morning.
03:12 How are you?
03:13 I’m good. How are you both? We are great. It’s a, you know, despite the fact that it’s just about the most miserable kind of January day here in Oregon, unfortunately this time of year. It’s not as windy as it’s been though. That’s true. That is true. So yeah, we’re. Well,
03:31 I have a son who lives in Corvallis, so, uh, a little bit and a daughter who used to go to the University of Oregon. So I’ve done both the Oregon school, so
03:43 Me too! go ducks, go ducks. So, uh, we were just telling people in your introduction, uh, that you are a holistic health coach, you have a background in nutrition and science and you work with people to help them develop a healthier kind of overall approach to life. I guess I don’t want to say diet, we’ve been talking about diet and I want it to have you on specifically to talk about some of the things revolving around intermittent fasting and bioindividuality. Those are the big words that we’re going to use today in terms of. I know, right, they’re big words but kind of talk about those things as they apply to it. But really just when you work with clients, what do you see your, your, you come at it from. Like I said, explain to me when you think of the word holistic or what is your drive in helping people with their approach to life
04:38 oh, you know, it’s interesting because I really look now maybe because of being older is I’m very much more passionate about, we’re living longer, but how well are we doing that? So I really think that we need to experience aliveness, you know, really feeling totally vibrantly alive, no matter our age and not accept a fate of ill health just because of our age or family history. It’s exactly like with you Molly, you know, that you have the power of making changes in your daily living that will affect the outcome of your health into your nineties. That being said, so I look at it from a holistic perspective and it’s everything, right? It’s, it’s how we view the world. It’s our thoughts inside of our mind. Are we sleeping well? What foods are we nourishing our bodies with? What’s our stress level like? And um, you know, what, what are the holistic thing? So it’s everything we know, how we’re breathing, how we’re thinking, how we’re sleeping, what we’re eating, how we’re moving, and who are we connecting with? All of those things. Just like you have those five for life,
05:57 You sort of just hit on all those right now. No wonder we want to talk with each other
06:02 Right and it’s not and because I come from a fitness background, a lot of us are so attached to wanting that perfect body, but that’s not a aliveness, so hopefully that kind of makes sense on why I’m still doing and continuing to figure out the best ways to experience that as we get older.
06:24 Yeah. So tell us about your background and so you’ve been doing this kind of work for how long?
06:32 I started ran marathons in a long time ago in the eighties and nineties and went into triathlons and so I did a lot of endurance sports and it was always that person who was so interested in sports nutrition specifically. So I was very self taught though I did not. I have A. I have learning challenges that really prevented me from going into getting a phd in college. I did graduate from college but I was studying nutrition and couldn’t make it there. I learn really weirdly. That’s a really weird reading. This kind of challenge. You can call it dyslexia. It’s on that spectrum, but whenever. Needless to say move way past that. So I’m very self taught in that regard when I was very physically active and doing marathons and triathlons and so I’ve always stayed in that realm. And then in 2009 I became a personal trainer and then from there there’s always noticed there was that missing piece.
07:37 I could be with somebody in the gym for an hour, a week to three hours a week, but what else was going on in their lives? It had nothing to do with me on that day so that I was working with them and I just, I just really saw there was something missing. And so as I continue to learn more and more about nutrition, about aging better and more and more about proper movement patterns, not just getting into the gym or running, I realized that there was all this other stuff missing. So that’s when I went ahead and went into further health coaching.
08:16 So to speak.
08:17 Awesome. Yeah, it’s along the same lines in terms of definitely our approach to aging and is very similar. I’m not from the nutrition and fitness background, but just that whole idea that we are going to live longer, most likely that that’s just the, you know, the way that if you, if you reach the age of 65 year average life expectancy for today is another 19 years. So it’s not like most of us. I mean if you reach the age 65 most of best, we’ll see another 19 to 20 years. That’s a long time, you know, and there’s no reason that those years have to be spent in decline. And so we, we agree wholeheartedly with that. One of the things we’re talking about January, you know, we, unless we mentioned to you prior to get started on this recording, we have purposefully stayed away from Diet recommendations in our protocol at five for life.
09:16 We know that all of our five daily actions move, learn, share, give and let go. They’re all proven backed by science to increase longevity and improve overall happiness. And there are a lot of different recommendations that people make and some of them have contradictory lines when it comes to a healthy diet. So we’ve purposely stayed away this month in January, we are focusing on different ways of achieving a healthy, a healthier diet and just feeding your body and the best way you do it. The best way to get nutrients and we are presenting ideas that are not necessarily contradictory but they do it maybe contradictory just because there are a lot of different evidence for why certain things do work and they’re all things to be learned. So that’s why we’re sharing this. We wanted to talk with you specifically because one of the things that I liked about things that I’ve seen from you and on your website, soulfullife.com.
10:18 We’ll link to all this in the show notes and your, um, social media is bioindividuality and intermittent fasting. So let’s talk first about bio individuality and some of the reasons that we just, we had a brief conversation about this, about why that’s important, especially as it relates to aging and what happened, you know, before the times when. I mean people like my dad who is going to be 91 here in just a couple of weeks. He grew up on a farm. He still, he eats eggs, he ate, you know, uh, a lot of homemade baked goods his whole life and he’s, you know, 91. So He’s here to here to tell her to tell us all about it.
11:01 Right. And I think too, with bioindividuality what it comes down to is that it really is. There are, there’s definitely, we all have different genetic dispositions. We all have different genes and some people can metabolize sugar better than others. Some people metabolize fat better than others. Some people can eat certain foods, some people can’t eat those certain foods. Kale might be good for one person and it really might not be good for another person. So how do you figure that out? Kind of comes down to a lot of experimentation. And then obviously if some people really want, they can get it, some DNA testing done, that’s another whole ballgame. So we know if in fact we all ate a little bit less everyday and moved more, we might lose weight. That’s like an old paradigm, but we all know that doesn’t necessarily work because certain foods will respond differently to each person. We have different stress levels, so we need to figure out maybe why we eat a certain way when we’re stressed, how it impacts our hormones, our gut health, which you briefly spoken to other people about, I believe on his podcast as well.
12:17 That’ll have a big impact on how we metabolize food, certain foods. So that’s where that whole bio individuality comes from and it does come down to kind of tweaking what’s best for each person. Um, and it depends. All those factors depend how much sleep are you getting because if you’re not sleeping, hands down, if you’re not sleeping well and you’re trying to lose weight, it’s almost virtually impossible. So that’s something that some people may sleep well we may not have to work on improving sleep patterns, right? But if we can work on improved sleep patterns, that’s going to be a certain thing that’s important to one person who doesn’t sleep well versus somebody who does. And it depends on where your, you know, where if you, if you’re talking about weight loss or fat loss, you know there’s different things. Whereas you, where are you gaining fat? Are you someone who has an insulin instability? So it’s all those things I kind of kept going on and on, but that’s basically to really dial in what’s best for you as a person.
13:28 Right? Yeah. That’s Kinda one of the reasons. The reasons that we haven’t focused on any particular dietary habits is because it is so individual. And for somebody who, you know, who eats five little meals a day, that works great. And one person who says, yeah, I’m only, I’m only eating two meals a day and it works great for them and other people that just, that sounds like a nightmare. So it’s. So it’s so individualized. And as that relates, we know there are people that are going to just, they just, like you said, it might be that you are one of those lucky people that you could eat French fries your entire life and make it to 90, you know, and it’s just your bio processing. You know, we see these people there. They may be outliers, but for most of us we’re going to do better.
14:24 Especially now you, we had an interesting conversation about the. Because you know, all of us, the people that are aging, the baby boomers, right? We grew up in an era in the sixties and the seventies where all of these conveniences were coming about. Right? All of these packaged foods, these processed foods, the TV dinners. Yeah, right. The microwave oven, all of this. The junk food. I mean, it really started to hit just full throttle when we were growing up. Our parents never ate like that when they were growing up. You know, they, they, there wasn’t top Ramen, you know, that just didn’t exist.
15:05 No. If you think about what your. Maybe your grandmother would say, right? Our grandmothers would say, or you know, our mothers, whatever, you know, eat your breakfast, which we’re going to talk a little bit about intermittent fasting, which now we might prolong that break fast, but no, eat your vegetables and she hated you. You don’t snack before dinner. No snacking before dinner. That was the basic premises we didn’t, we didn’t. Then everything was in the freezer and we’d come home and either stick it in a toaster or the microwave and there was always this abundance of all of a sudden, highly palatable foods that weren’t real foods.
15:46 Yes. Snacks, snacks in general that, that probably wasn’t a thing at all.
15:53 It really wasn’t. And you know, I’ve just spoke a little bit about this today because I coming from the fitness, a fitness background, you know, in the fitness world or bodybuilding world now for those, especially if that, that’s not necessarily our audience, but that’s where it kind of premise where we should be eating four to six meals constantly a day. Oh, you should eat every two to four hours. You know, I was one of those people who would say that’s beneficial. But we kind of know now that doesn’t give your body a break of trying to digest food. It’s really hard for the body, especially as we age.
16:33 Yeah. And I wonder about that. Do you see this gap? I mean, I think it’s pretty common or at least to me it seems common that women. I mean, in potentially men too, but women especially once they hit menopause, I mean there’s, it’s women struggle with weight retention and weight loss after they hit menopause. I don’t, is that, I mean, am I just making that up or is it real?
16:58 You know, it no matter what are our body fat percentage, the amount of fat we have in our body does increase as we get older. Part of that is a protective mechanism. Okay. So with a higher body fat percentage, it makes it, your metabolism slows down, right? Because you don’t have as much muscle mass as you used to when you were younger. So therefore, yes, our metabolism slows down and yes, it does make it harder. That’s why I’m a huge proponent of lifting something heavy, right? Doing some kind of resistance training, but that will help with that piece of the metabolism and hormones dictate our metabolism. So whether it’s insulin, which is the, you know, what gets released from the pancreas, right? It’s, we can’t, we can’t, um, you know, would that resistance of insulin for overusing it if we get at risk for type two diabetes and insulin cortisol, which is the stress hormone, we have natural cortisol that we need, but if there’s an excess of it that’s going to help keep belly fat in, for sure, it doesn’t have to be this crazy like stressed out sense, but if we’re just feeling a little bit more anxious about things that stressful if we’re eating in a state of, in a rush, that stressful.
18:28 So these are ways to increase our cortisol and then the other two hormones are hormones that have to deal with knowing when we’re hungry and knowing when we’re full and if we can’t tap into those which can happen. Um, I think that based upon overeating too many snacks or whatever, and other foods that will also affect our fat loss or fat gain, no matter our age. But, um, something that we know more about as we’re getting older.
19:01 Yeah, yeah. I hear what you’re saying. Especially we, I think you probably know and we’ve talked to phyllis lerner at follow Phyllis, who’s going to be 67, she’s a bodybuilder or weightlifter, you know, and the whole lifting weights is just that muscle muscle mass is so incredibly important as you age as well. Let’s talk a little bit about why intermittent fasting is so important in terms of not only calorie restriction but the benefits of intermittent fasting for. Digestion I supposebe. Cause there’s more than just, there’s more to it than just the calorie restrict.
19:38 And so just so you guys, I think, and I think you, you touched on this, it’s an ancient practice. Basically. It’s not a diet number one, it is a way of restricting calories and all kind of get to that because you’re, you’re eating in a shorter window frame, but the benefits are it will boost your immune system. It’s protective for Our brains, are so it’s neuroprotective, it is excellent for our cardiovascular health, so it’s cardio protective and it has huge. I hate this word, I hate, I don’t love the word anti aging, but it obviously is beneficial for a healthy lifespan.
20:18 Well, and they’ve showed there, I mean this is like, I’ve read the science on this, they’ve done it with rats and they’ve actually proven the rats, when you say they, they literally show better biomarkers like anti aging, you know, like the younger biomarkers when they restrict their diet. So it’s, it’s true.
20:37 So when you tell people, yes, most people are interested in losing belly fat, so that’s gonna be a huge one because it enhances or hormone function that will facilitate weight loss. Right? And that is that. Sorry, I will let us know properly when we’re really hungry and it will let us know when we’re really full. It helps with that. It will drop insulin levels if they’re elevated, right? Due to the fact that you’re going to be turning into, you’re going to be using fat for fuel more than your sugar stores, so it helps you become more of a fat burner than a sugar burner because of you’re burning sugar all the time. You, that’s when you. You’re going to demand to be. You’re going to want to be hungry again because you’re just going to use it and use it. And use it, um, it helps. One of the really great benefits for an aging person, for purposes is what’s called autophagy, and that is just cellular repair it, it literally removes waste from these powerhouse cells in our body so that our bodies can literally functioned better from a total standpoint, which is why it also helps with our brain health. Um, it will. Oh, it’s good for, as I mentioned, immune booster. So it will strengthen your immune system. It reduces oxidation, which is an inflammation. Right? Which is another big one. I think inflammation period is really why we have so many health problems. Yeah.
22:16 Just linked to so many diseases. I mean, people don’t see, you know, basically almost every disease that, that is a problem. It’s the root. That problem. Yeah.
22:27 It is the root. And so, um, it will reduce oxidative stress, therefore reduce inflammation, which also can help them decrease all your risks for a multitude of diseases and controls the insulin. Like I said, it just helps us age though. And it’s remarkable because you have more energy, you’ll have more energy. When you have more energy, you want to do more, right? It will help you sleep better. And so the question kind of ends up being for people was how does it work? Right?
22:54 Yeah. I was just gonna say so yes. I, this, this is something that there’s a lot of, again, uh, when I was in studying this and I did do this for awhile, the recommendations are pretty broad in terms of the minimum number of hours that you need to fast the number of etc. So it or it. I Shouldn’t say that they, they vary, right. So what,
23:18 There’s different ways of doing it. So, for instance, there are a few people who probably cannot have a fasting protocol and that’s somebody in all honesty, if somebody has a disordered eating, if someone has a true anxiety disorder and slash or a few other factors in your health care provider would know that. RIght? But in really not recommended in those, in those circumstances. So what is a way to start really honestly, it’s just to extend your breakfast from if you can do a minimum of 12 hours. Okay. And that’s one way to start. So it’s also more beneficial not to eat late at night, which is really hard for people with families. And so I’m not disregarding that, but if we can stop our eating in the evening by 6:00 PM, that’s great because it’s pretty easy I think for most people then to wait even 14 hours to like 8:00 AM to start eating again, you know, to have their first meal the next day.
24:20 But it doesn’t really matter what time right now. The point iS you can do 12 hours, 14 hours, 16 hours. I usually have people start if they really uncomfortable with just the 12 hours for a few days, then the next day try 13 hours, then a few days later, 14 to try to get to that 16 hour mark is kind of maybe the magic for a lot of people. Some women in particular, this is the other thing really can’t go beyond that. And there are some, some, some theories out there and some studies out there that show it might not be as beneficial for some women. It’s one of those things where you have to just try it yourself. Uh, and I think it has to do with hormones by the, for the most part. But if you can do that 16 hour window, that’s for the intermittent fasting, like if you’re doing it daily magic thing to really help with the growth of neurons that will help our brains against some oxidative damage. It really is that one thing that will really start to put you in that fat burning mode where we can really help decrease some of that belly fat. Those things will help. And then the one I’m just going to touch on, one more thing on that is one more really great way to just really clean out the junk in ourselves is if people can throw in a one day, a week, 24 hour fast, it will re, and then the rest of the week they might not even necessarily have to do the intermittent fasting protocol, 16 eight, but it really can also do a lot of cellular repair. help with some fat loss help with overall metabolism. If it’s slower, it’ll kind of help increase that and that’s another benefit people always say, I can’t imagine not eating well. This is the thing though. It also helps you be really aware of the power food may have on our brain when we think we’re hungry and it’s amazing when you can kind of get past that, how you realize it really might not have been that hard. And for those people who are older, how many of you have had to prepare for a colonoscopy? You know what? You don’t eat for 24 to 48 hours and we do. Okay.
26:50 Yeah. You figure it out, That wasn’t I just didn’t. That wasn’t that long ago for me. And it was not. It wasn’t pleasant, but it was doable. Really, the not eating part wasn’t that bad. It was the prep. It’s not that pleasant.
27:04 I hope that was a little helpful and shed a little light.
27:06 Totally. For sure. So I have a question about the whole. So what’s allowed, if you’re in a fasting period, right? If you’re trying to extend that fast to 16 to 16 hours. So you get up at 8:00 AM and it’s been, you know, you haven’t eaten for hours. Most people though, if you think about most people are starting work eight or nine, so really realistically you’re getting earlier, you’re up at six, you’ve, you ate your last meal at six year up at six. Again, you’re trying to extend that fast. Say for another two hours. Can you drink coffee?
27:44 Oh, good question. I need to know. I drink black coffee. Yes. Okay. And there is the controversy here on what breaks your fast and what does it. There are some who say black coffee will break your fast because it does because it will increase your cortisol. So when I’m talking I’m simply talking real food, you know, in all honesty, there are some people who put mct oil in their coffee. I think that breaks your fast even though you’ll use fat for fuel. I’m, I’m, it’s still, it’s still calorically dense. So I say personally I say no, I’m so, coffee is fine as long as it’s black.
28:26 Now see? And I’ve heard 50 calories or below so people like say that they drink their coffee with cream in it because it’s not 50 calories so they can bet that isn’t breaking your fast, but I don’t know.
28:39 It breaks your fast. It just does.That’s true. Not just as it does. Because it will affect your insulin levels.
28:50 So we have to process something. Yeah. So it does, it breaks the fast.
28:56 You can drink, but obviously water, tea, any of the clear, you know.
29:03 Oh yeah. Well my first recommendation, first and foremost, hands down, besides working on people with their sleep, first thing you need to do every single morning when you wake up and get out of bed, out of bed is you’re drinking 12 minimum ounces to 20 ounces of water first and foremost, above all else, the rest of your day, you can at least you can say to yourself, I had a great day. No matter how bad quote unquote your day might have seen if you drank that water, you accomplish something really good for yourself all day long. I mean I will put my foot in the ground over and over again on one drink your water. My husband is like, yes, I had 20 ounces of water this morning, making sure so.
29:52 But it’s, you know. and that’s so, I mean we talked a little bit, I think with Lisa King about this, about the, about releasing toxins and why water is good for you, but also just, I mean hydration and on, I mean all of us know and it’s, it’s simply simply put, most people do not get enough water. So, um, but also, you know, all the the benefits of it. It fills your belly, is one thing. It puts something in your stomach that fills you up. Yeah. So it’ll help with that, extending that fast.
30:25 And most people, same thing in the afternoon if you think you’re hungry or whatever I say, and what to break your fast with. So this is the other thing is when you, when you, when you’re going to eat, it is challenging for people. I will say, let’s say people are getting up and going and going to their job and the maybe they’ll work out or whatever and that’s fine, but. and they, they’re ready to eat at 10:00. It may not be a very conducive environment for them to have their first meal at 10:00 AM. So that can be another challenge. And so I’ve worked with people and figuring out, well maybe we, you know, maybe that isn’t going to work for you or that’s when food preparation comes into play, but we’re not going to go down that rabbit hole. But it, it does help if you can make stuff that you can take to work in at least, but you also have to have a pretty good sized meal at that point in time because you may not eat again for six hours and that might be your other big meal.
31:24 So that’s an interesting we talked about, mentioned to you and we did a whole podcast on blue zones and one of the things, the seventh day adventists who have historically had a lot of people that live to very old page, 100, they’re very big on the one meal a day. Like literally like they may only have a reasonable sized meal at 10:00 AM. And then they have one big meal at 4:00 PM. Their, their lifestyle is almost. This is, has been intermittent fasting. Just like you said, it’s an ancient practice. I think that they, you know, it’s an example of just that’s a part of their culture and it obviously must have something to do with the reason that they live so long.
32:02 Yeah. They say that and because they are vegetarians.
32:05 Yeah. Yeah. It’s hard to say on that one. It’s like it’s a combination. It’s a weird, weird blue zone because of where they live and in California.. Uh, but it is, it is inteResting because I also think for, for me personally, how much food would you eat in one sitting then? Wouldn’t you have a stomach ache? I don’t know. That would Be me,
32:31 But yeah, I don’t know. But then there’s the, if you think of the european, like they take two meals at two hours to eat meal. So you know, it’s like, yes you probably do consume a lot more food than you would trying to throw it in in 20 minutes. So again, it’s all about how you get that food into you. I think that’s a really, you know, we’re not on this topic, but the whole, the whole idea of slowing down and eating more slowly I think is again, part of, you know, a better, healthier diet as well because we are so often just on the run and cramming things in our mouths, you know,
33:16 We can’t, we cannot and we will not digest our foods if we’re in a stress mode, right. If we literally rest and digest, we call that, you know, part of the nervous system, rest and digest or fight or flight. And that’s unfortunate. We have gotten, and I’m even guilty and I’ll walk around the house and eat and I’m thinking, well, I’m not paying attention to what I’m eating. I’m not breathing. I’m certainly not digesting my food. I mean it’s just impossible, which will increase. It, will slow down our metabolism. It, we will not digest our food. It’ll, we will gain that belly fat again and it doesn’t help us as we get older for certain. Yeah.
34:00 So we talked a little bit about the, about a 16, eight, intermittent fasting are there. And then the benefits also of maybe doing 1:24 hour fast during the week and what that might look like it is, is how about broth? Is that something that’s like considered.
34:16 A bone broth is a great way like during let’s say a 24 hour fast where people who really are like just can’t do water only or really are nervous about starting out that way. BenefitS are we can I still say have tea, decaf teas, preferably green tea is great, you know, I will have a cup of black coffee still even though that really probably isn’t a true 24 hour fast even. But the green tea is great and bone broths, they’re just so good for our gut and it really does still help with that. It’s really not going to throw us off of that 24 hour fast is a great way to great way to um, try a 24 hour fast. And it does, it kind of helps get some of those toxins out of your body and benefits all the things we kind of mentioned before.
35:07 And I actually, when I was doing it, I was doing five, two fasting, which was basically like a five days of a relatively normal diet and then two days of very restricted like 500 calories on those two days. And really with 500 calories you basically end up doing like a 20 hour fast and a four hour eating window where you’re, you know, because you can’t 500 calories, you know, you couldn’t eat, you could eat 500 years pretty quickly in a day. So you just did the most people extended that to you know, just ate one meal a day when doing that kind of fasting. And it was, it was very interesting. It was very, I mean definitely a what I think, and you mentioned it briefly earlier, increased energy. And what I found is after I got into the habit of doing it, I felt like my brain was working at a much quicker pace while I was in a fasted state.
36:07 And that is one of the big benefits that most people will say about it. Really? Why it does that? And it is, once again, it’s that cleaning out of other things, right in our brain, it helps our brain just clean out some of the, come with a gunk and so we can think more clearly because we’re not in that constant digestion stage, which is taking brain work to digest.
36:33 Right. So that’s part of it. And that’s fasting mimicking diet you’re talking about. Right?
36:38 I was called five, two intermittent and, and you know, it, uh, they actually had a great, a online forum free just and people around the world. So it was very interesting. Very, very fun. Yeah.
36:53 And you’re increasing your human growth hormone when you’re doing that also, which is our natural, our body’s natural ability to keep us younger and keep our metabolism working well and keep our brains thinking more clearly. All of that. So that’s another benefit of that. Yeah. Well, and you know, we are on video so that we can see you and we talk. We don’t have a video of you showing that people will see your pictures if you’re. I mean, we, we share how old you are now.
37:19 Oh yeah, that’s fine. I’m 57. Yeah, I mean it’s interesting and I think we’ll set honestly part of it is genes, but yes,
37:30 I know you’re lucky.
37:31 You mean my father died relatively young of skin cancer, which was super, super healthy, but he looked younger. I mean he just, you know, some of it is I think genetic for sure. However, I still think like I have the natural hgh levels are pretty high I believe because of just moving weights again and trying to, you know, eat well.
37:58 So it’s working, it’s working, whatever it is, it’s working. We’re probably at that time where let’s tell people how they can connect with you and where they can find you. So online it’s solfullife.com, but it’s sol like the sun.
38:21 Yes. It’s sol like the sun s o l f u l life.com. And it’s the sun because I love the sun but also because of light of energy of a, that kind of thing. So that’s kind of where that comes from. Soulfullife.com. You can find me on instagram at deb g health and facebook. Deb guiterrez sts or depth gutierrez and I have. That’s pretty much it. Yeah, that’s perfect. And we will link to love talking to people. So you know, I love answering questions and all that good stuff.
39:05 Yeah. Fantastic. We will, like I said, we’ll link to all that in our show notes so people can connect with you and love that. We were able to share information on intermittent fasting, bio individuality and just, you know, I love your approach to abundant health and life, which I think is one of your sayings to. Yeah. So we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us and educate our audience a little bit more on the benefits of it and just thanks again for talking with us.
39:36 I really appreciate your reaching out to me. I mean I was really, I dunno, just like in awe and touched and so I really, I really, really appreciate your time and your effort and your work that you both are doing to just, you know, kind of help us all live like that. Like I said, experience aliveness and those five pillars are really key, right? That connection. And so I really appreciate it.
40:03 Awesome, deb, thanks and appreciate your time. Yeah, Thank you.
40:08 I’ll see you somewhere. Sounds good. Thank you. Thanks for listening to the live happier, longer podcast. Now it’s time to move, learn, share, and give let go. Five daily actions to make the rest of your life the best of your life. See you next week.